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ATTILA SZALAY-BERZEVICKY: THE NEW FACE OF THE BUDAPEST STOCK
EXCHANGE
WRITTEN BY Kester Eddy
Ask Attila Szalay-Berzevicky, the new chairman of the Budapest
Stock Exchange (BSE), about his age and he comes across a
tad sensitive. "I’m 32. The chairman of the Prague stock
exchange is also 32, and the new Czech prime minister is
34. So if you ask me if I am too young for this job, I can
say there are several examples [of young leaders] in Central
Europe," he retorts. In fact, having started his financial
career with Budapest Bank in 1990, just after the two-tier
banking system was created, he claims to be one of the "oldest
players" on the Hungarian market.
Old hand or not, HVB Bank Hungary, his employer since 1999,
propelled Szalay-Berzevicky into the BSE chairmanship and
local headlines in mid-summer after the German bank bought
a 25% stake in the Budapest bourse. This, together with stakes
in other institutions in which HVB has an interest, gives
HVB an effective total stake of 33% in the Budapest bourse.
Since HVB (or its Austrian allies, including BA-CA) already
owns the largest single stake in the Vienna bourse, the move
represents the first concrete consolidation of the fractured
and, even by continental European standards, tiny capital
markets of Central and Eastern Europe (CEE). Szalay-Berzevicky,
who admits to being involved in the deal (he personally haggled
for shares over the phone for HVB), is keen to advance his
vision of an expanded role for the BSE within a larger alliance
of bourses in the region. "Now we have two pillars -
Vienna and Budapest - that’s a good start. Obviously Warsaw,
which is due to be privatized next year, is the next [possible
partner]," he says.
A CHANCE FOR SURVIVAL?
For Szalay-Berzevicky, the choice is whether the Poles decide
to join a big Western European alliance, such as Euronext
or the Deutsche Börse, which would mean a loss of independence
and next to no influence on the parent group, or to link
up with the new Vienna-Budapest axis. Szalay-Berzevicky is
an advocate of a "Euronext" type of union between
the exchanges of Central Europe. Euronext, formed four years
ago when the exchanges of Amsterdam, Brussels and Paris merged,
claims to be Europe’s leading cross-border exchange. By integrating
trading and clearing operations, Euronext says it has already
increased liquidity and lowered transaction costs, offering
traders a single trading platform, with common trading rules.
These measures permit investors to access all Euronext markets
with equal ease. A similar arrangement in Central Europe,
Szalay-Berzevicky maintains, would provide local bourses
with "a chance to stay alive, with independence and
a role as equal partners. The question of independence and
national symbols are important in this region."
Such an alliance, with cross listings and increased trading
between the regional bourses, would create a virtuous circle,
and encourage more investors and motivate new listings, he
argues.
"There is very limited cross-border trading [within
the region] at the moment. Poland buys some Budapest stocks,
and vice versa, but we want to open the floodgates." Nevertheless,
he admits that building a fully functioning CEE "Euronext" will
take time, and may eventually have to await the introduction
of the common currency.
PUSHING CROSS BORDER LISTINGS
Meanwhile, he is keen to build on what is already available
in Budapest. That includes the ongoing merger process with
the Budapest Commodity Exchange (BÁT), and a drive to fully
integrate Keler, the central clearinghouse and depository.
Keler is an essential component of the stock market package
that ensures shareowners are recognized and transaction payments
are correctly registered.
Currently, the Hungarian Central Bank (MNB) owns (or will
shortly own) a 53% stake in Keler, valued at some HUF 6-7
billion (USD 30-35 million). Szalay-Berzevicky plans to raise
cash to fund the purchase, probably next year, by offering
a share issue and listing the BSE itself on the exchange.
In addition, while Szalay-Berzevicky also aims to continue
and strengthen the program begun by his predecessor, György
Jaksity, to encourage welldeveloped medium-sized local businesses
to come to the market, the new chairman is eyeing a previously
untested market, aiming to push cross-border and dual listings
on the Budapest bourse. "Outside Hungary there are two
directions to go. One is Austria, where many of the companies
are interested in Central Europe. We have already seen banks
interested in being listed in the region, for example Bank
Austria itself is now in Warsaw, Erste Bank in Prague, and
now I’ve heard of a couple of other banks considering listings
here. This is for them a market, and being listed on the
exchanges is a kind of marketing tool, because they are in
the financial news every day," he says.
The other direction is within the former Soviet-bloc, where
many of the bourses are struggling to achieve adequate levels
of liquidity to attract listings from their own domestic
companies. "For companies in countries like Romania,
Serbia or Ukraine, Budapest could be an interesting place
to double list. We would not go there in a hostile way, but
obviously we have to look around and promote ourselves, to
say; hey, we are a possibility," he says.
RELUCTANT DOMESTIC INVESTORS
Such cross-border listings are not likely to happen overnight,
however, and pursuing domestic listings might be more fruitful,
at least in the near term. Yet, Szalay- Berzevicky is not
quite his natural optimistic self when it comes to the home
market, harboring concerns about the issuers' side and the
willingness of Hungarians and Hungarian institutions to invest
in equities. "Unfortunately, here [in Hungary] it is
easier for business leaders to go to a bank and apply for
a loan, rather than go out and open their company up in front
of shareholders and the public. If you come here and get
listed you will be a transparent company, and obviously most
managers needs a change of mindset for this." He maintains
Hungarian investors also need a change of mindset. Pension
and investment funds - attracted to government bonds for
high yields - for the time being typically hold only 10%
of assets in equities. They will have to consider investing
more heavily into equities as interest rates will eventually
come down, as they must if Hungary is to enter the eurozone
according to the timetable of 2010, Szalay-Berzevicky believes.
The public is a different matter. "People are just not
saving. There are more and more loans being taken out, in
euro and other foreign currency, and the Hungarian society
is getting very indebted, rather like the USA. So we have
to promote saving, jointly with the government, because the
[modern] state is not going to take good care of you," he
says. Once savings begin to grow again, the public must learn
to think beyond the bank account and think of securities,
and then in turn to see holding stocks as a long -term strategy. "Buying
shares is not a short-term investment. Short term is a casino,
it’s gambling. People need to understand that if they look
at the long-term performance of stock markets around the
world, these - Japan excepted - outperform inflation by far,
and other [savings] instruments," he says.
TEACHING THE PUBLIC
Hence Szalay-Berzevicky is keen to continue and even expand
the stock exchange "road shows," which in the past
year visited provincial cities around Hungary in an attempt
to reach out to potential investors around the country. "I
intend to get personally involved on these road shows. In
fact we are in discussions with the government to jointly
target the public, using the media, and also with the ministry
of education to get the basic [elements] of financial markets
taught in high school. A new generation has to be born!" he
says.
Visionary stuff. But is Szalay-Berzevicky not concerned
that Hungarians will be even more suspicious of a Budapest
bourse, itself a bastion of capitalist thinking, which is
now majority owned by a foreign bank? "Bankers versus
poor people? I don’t really think this is [right]. It’s one
thing obviously that the stock exchange has to handle. There
is a lot of communication and education [needed]. The stock
exchange is a tool for everyone who has savings. I knew that
this [move by HVB] would be seen as a foreign take-over and
not be popular, but I believed in this strategy and decided
to go ahead with it because, in the long term, it will be
to everybody’s benefit," he replies, calmly, confidently
and, almost, defiantly.
Szalay-Berzevicky: the international patriot Somewhat unusual
for one of the key players in Budapest’s financial circles,
the new chairman of the BSE is not from the Hungarian capital.
Attila Szalay-Berzevicky was born in the industrial town
of Tatabánya, 60km west of Budapest, and attended a local
school and college. But when Szalay- Berzevicky’s father
(now an MP in Tatabánya), a mining engineer, worked in the
Middle East in the 1980s, his son Attila went to schools
in Algeria and Kuwait. In 1993, he won a one-year scholarship
to the Center for International Banking Studies in Istanbul,
Turkey. He rates this international educational experience
as "more important" than any formal qualification,
and says it helped him to work with an understanding of both
Hungarians and foreigners. " I think this is one of my strengths, part of the result
of my education abroad. Living abroad, I can work generally
with foreigners, Austrians, Americans. I feel much nearer
to the Anglo-Saxon [sic!] world than to the German world,
but I can work with whoever, no problem, as long as my goals
can be achieved." Szalay-Berzevicky worked to build
up the share custody operation at Budapest Bank in the early
90s at a time when few knew what the words meant. When Budapest
Bank sold this business to Bank Austria Creditanstalt in
1999, Szalay-Berzevicky moved banks. "HVB is handling
some EUR 10 billion in assets in custody, so it is a big
player. This contributes 11% of HVB Hungary’s earnings." It
is this work, which gave him the inside knowledge of how
stock exchanges operate, that gives him the self belief that
he is the right man to think strategy at the BSE. "I
know how settlement is going on across Europe. Everyone thinks
you should be a broker, but brokers do not even think about
how trades are settled. Why would they think about how the
international infrastructure is changing?" he asks.
Later work as a regional representative provided him knowledge
and experience with most of the figures in the securities
world of Central Europe. But for all his love of travel and
foreign living, he still finds Hungary and Budapest home. "I
am a patriot and a cosmopolitan. These may sound in conflict,
but for me they are part of my soul."
Doing the rounds
In August, soon after taking the chairmanship of the BSE,
Szalay-Berzevicky paid courtesy visits to Hungary’s Ministry
of Finance, Central Bank and PSZÁF, the financial supervisory,
to explain plans. "These were courtesy visits. I had
to introduce strategy, our goals and myself. With [MNB governor]
Járai we touched base on [central clearing house and depository]
Keler. I got the promise that the Central Bank has nothing
against having the entire Keler package under the stock exchange," he
said. With Tibor Draskovics, the finance minister, conversation
dwelled more on ways to encourage investment in the exchange,
and particularly on avoiding any re-introduction of the capital
gains tax, at least for the time being. " We understand that as income from labor is taxed,
so income from capital could also be taxed. But we also believe
that right now the Hungarian securities market is still at
a very fragile stage, and needs support from the government." With
savings, especially in shares, very low in Hungary, Szalay-Berzevicky
is keen to work hand-in-hand with the government to find
ways of changing this, but "introducing capital gains
tax would not be one of them," he said. "We expressed
our concerns, but we did not expect an answer [just yet].
This is a political issue," he said.
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